NUMBER OF LINES: 999 001=Usr:0 Null User 06/30/87 20:34 Msg:0 Call:0 Lines:19 1$If you are in need of help, you need but ask... 2$************************* INSTALLED: 27 OCT 89 *************************** 3$Welcome to BWMS II (BackWater Message System II) Mike Day System operator 4$************************************************************************** 5$GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS II IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION 6$ PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM. 7$BWMS II was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS II is a privately 8$owned and operated system which is currently open for use by the general 9$public. No restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the 10$system is privately owned, I retain the right to remove any and all 11$messages which I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the 12$system, it will be periodically purged of messages (only 999 lines of data 13$can be saved). To leave a message, type 'ENTER'. Use ctrl/C to get out 14$the ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering 15$the message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to 16$replace the line. To exit from the system, type 'BYE' then hang up. 17$Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system. 18$************************************************************************** 19$ 002=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 10/27/89 20:53 Msg:4508 Call:25010 Lines:3 20 What is more foolish, the child who is afraid of the dark 21 or the man afraid of the light? -- Maurice Freehill 22 ************************************************************************ 003=Usr:333 Bartender Slug 10/27/89 21:51 Msg:4509 Call:25014 Lines:5 23 24 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25 I'm close to the top! Nyah nyah nyah! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 26 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Slug >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 27 004=Usr:0 Null User 10/27/89 23:23 Msg:4510 Call:25017 Lines:3 28 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==== 29 And I'm close to a slug. Great. 30 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==Zephyr::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==== 005=Usr:35 Kristy Crawford 10/28/89 12:32 Msg:4511 Call:25035 Lines:7 31 *#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#* 32 Just a note from a new logee...Taken from Murphy's Laws on Sex: 33 34 "Sex has no calories" 35 *#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*##Kristy Crawford*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#* 36 list 37 006=Usr:29 The Bard 10/28/89 14:48 Msg:4512 Call:25036 Lines:5 38 Well, as I understand it, what little concensus there is on the subject holds 39 that the sysop is only liable if someone posts copyrighted material if he 40 allows it to remain on the system after he discovers it. 41 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~BARD~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 42@Yeah, I know, but I had to say *something* about it. 007=Usr:352 Katie Kolbet 10/28/89 20:04 Msg:4513 Call:25040 Lines:12 43 44 45 ***********$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ 46 HI! Just signed on to say Hi! to all my former acquaintances here. I didn't 47 get a chance to say goodbye to anyone, but, since I have just returned from 48 college after a midterm or two, I thought I'd drop in. So to Friar, Vision, 49 Astral Dreamer, Hagberd, and whoever else I've been conversing with, HI!!!!! 50 51 +++++++++++Kaitlyn+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 52 (See you at Thanksgiving!!!!!) 53 54 008=Usr:402 DELTA.FIVE SHANN 10/28/89 23:52 Msg:4514 Call:25042 Lines:15 55 [*=*] [*=*] [*=*] DTA FIVE [*=*] [*=*] [*=*] [*=*] [*=*] [*=*] [*=*] 56 PASSENGER(MON AMI)+DV35mmBRAND(FIRST 3 LETTERS)=KEY. 57 YVYNV KOGRR VUGYA IUOOR GVGVR GRGYA OVNVV AAUGR RGOOA RIXXX 1526, 95109 58 The earthquake was indeed BAD, but not as bad as the media made it to be. Some 59 ten thousand people in the Los Gatos area were left homeless, many had their 60 homes destroyed. Very sad for many people here. 61 What the media didn't stress was that many thousands of people-police, fire, 62 ham radio Radio Amateur Civil Emergency Service, Red Cross, California Civil 63 Emergency Services, and thousands of "ordinary citizens" pitched in to help. 64 Communications and transportation were QUICKLY restored. Everywhere, people 65 helped people. I am warm inside that I was able to do a little myself in 66 transportation and communications. Though I have little love of California 67 (being an Oregonian) I am really impressed how the people here handled the 68 situation. 69 [*=*] DELTA FIVE IN SAN JOSE, CALIFORNIA [*=*] 009=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/29/89 09:17 Msg:4515 Call:25047 Lines:6 70 &*&*&*&*'s 71 Just lurking. Hello to all. 72 73 An Astral Dreamer 74 &*&*&*&*'s 75 010=Usr:368 Nemesis Warlock 10/29/89 13:37 Msg:4516 Call:25054 Lines:11 76 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==== 77 Delta Five: What you forget is that the number of people hiking up prices on 78 chainsaws and other power tools far beyond the range of many to pay, and the 79 number of people charging triple on bare necessities, and the number of 80 business establishments announcing "Disaster Pricing", meaning increases due to 81 the desolation, FAR exceeds the number who "helped" out of the goodness of 82 their smog-infested hearts. For anyone to take advantage of the pain and 83 suffering of others is, put simply, HORRIBLE, and the only warming I'm 84 experiencing from Californian mentality or action is the result of the 85 Greenhouse Effect they've helped to bring about. 86 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==Zephyr::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==== 011=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 10/29/89 23:09 Msg:4517 Call:25069 Lines:4 87 Kristy, 88 Welcome to the system. I hope that you enjoy the discusions and stories. 89 Caloric or otherwise.... 90 ************************** CM ******************************************* 012=Usr:286 Jeff Marten 10/30/89 06:54 Msg:4518 Call:25074 Lines:23 91 92 93 {{+}{+}{+} 94 95 { Wait a minute.... 96 97 Where's Kristy ? 98 99 She was just here 100 101 Kristy ? 102 103 KRISTY ! 104 105 Oh Well..........Another Broken Heart 106 107 -+|[ ThingFish ]|+- 108 Happens All The Time 109 110 111 {+}{+}{+}{+} 112 113 013=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par 10/30/89 12:20 Msg:4519 Call:25076 Lines:15 114 Luke! 115 116 Luke? 117 118 LUKE??? 119 120 Are you there my love? 121 122 KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK 123 124 *_)@*()_#@()_(_)!(@$_+)#@$+_@)$@+#(%$@_)+#$(@+#$)@+_%^*@+_#@#+_%)@#_+%)@#+_@)% 125 DV: Glad to hear you survived. Somehow I knew you would be in the thick of 126 things down there in the mess. Good job, and if you see Leroy McKane selling 127 $1000 chainsaws, fill him full of lead for me, will ya? 128 *$)_@#*$_)@#*(%_)@%*@_)@#_)%( L'homme sans Parity *%_)#@%*)_#@(_)@()_@#(%)_@#( 014=Usr:37 Kristy Crawford 10/30/89 16:50 Msg:4520 Call:25080 Lines:25 129 #*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*# 130 131 Hey, it's me again...Kristy...Kristy Crawford...Just thought I'd stop in to say 132 "hi." I suppose that's to who ever is reading this at the moment. I read 133 through the list of messages, just a question or two. I want to thank for 134 the welcoming on message. All I can say is that I'm new, and it's great to 135 make some new friendPossibly. And another question, about , wa[Cs 136 that directed toward me? And if it was, what was by the "another broken 137 heart"? HUMMMMMMMMM?!? Ah well, I should cut it short, and as before, I'll 138 sign off with another Murphy's Law on Sex quote... 139 140 "Sex is hereditary. If your parents never had it, chances are you won't 141 either." Just a side note, I'm getting these off a poster that's hanging in 142 my dorm room. Thought it'd liven up the people here. Oh well. Hey, does any- 143 one know Audie Huber? He used to hook up to this message board quite a bit. 144 He's at school...U of O to be precise. Anyway, nice talking to ya'...Until 145 next time... 146 147 #*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*Kristy Crawford#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#* 148 Sheeze, another entry by the obnoxious Kristy...This is directed to the 149 system operator...I had to re-sign up on this BBS board. I couldn't get in on 150 my other password. Bummer. Anyway, I just got a new number and changed 151 the password, so number 35 won't be used. It was my old "ON" number. Thanks. 152 153 #*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#Kristy Crawford#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*# 015=Usr:287 Ralph Steadman 10/30/89 23:05 Msg:4521 Call:25085 Lines:50 154 696969696969 (oh no, not again...) 155 What's going on with Nicaragua ? 156 157 CONTRA REBELS KILL 18:-10/23/89 158 Contra rebels killed 18 and wounded eight when they ambushed trucks that 159 were transporting soldiers. Nicaragua said the attack was part of a campaign 160 aimed at disrupting the electoral process. The last day for 1.3 million to 161 register to vote in February elections was Sunday. 162 163 BUSH WON'T TALK TO ORTEGA:-10/26/89 164 President Bush doesn't plan to talk with Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega 165 during a hemispheric summit in Costa Rica this weekend. Wednesday, Bush 166 extended for another six months a 1985 trade embargo against Nicaragua. 167 Civilian contra leaders say Bush and his aides haven't paid them any attention 168 in months. 169 170 DEBATE - ORTEGA OF NICARAGUA 171 JESSE HILL FORD, novelist and screenwriter: Teddy Roosevelt had it right: 172 "Walk softly and carry a big stick." Bush speaks loudly, but no stick of any 173 sort is anywhere in sight. 174 PAUL REICHLER, Sandinistas' lobbyist: "They have to go back on the 175 offensive or risk being picked off like sitting ducks." 176 PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH: "We have encouraged the contras not to take 177 aggressive military action. And we would continue to do that." 178 OSCAR ARIAS, Costa Rican president: "We have often seen how those who led 179 struggles against dictators themselves use the name of freedom to establish 180 dictatorships of a different ideological hue." 181 182 CONGRESS STRESSES U.S. AID:-10/30/89 183 Democrats and Republicans stressed support for continued U.S. humanitarian 184 aid to the contras until after Nicaraguan elections Feb. 25. Members of 185 Congress Sunday discounted the danger of new fighting in Nicaragua as 186 Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega softened his surprise threat to end a 19- 187 month cease-fire. 188 189 So, the U.S.-backed Contras (freedom fighters, as Ronnie called them) are 190 killing Nicaraguans on the day the end to restrictions on covert actions 191 ended. Coincidence? So, the U.S.-backed Contras resume killing Nicaraguans 192 instead of observing a 19-month long cease-fire that WAS observed by the 193 Sandinistas. Ortega says the Contras want to disrupt the elections. Bush says 194 that Ortega wants to disrupt the elections. The Congress says it wants to 195 send more "humanitarian" aid, and tells the President anything goes as far as 196 covert activity is concerned. With all the problems in the world, and in this 197 country, do we really need another war (shades of Viet Nam) to keep the 198 greedy military-industrial complex enormously wealthy? We can't even deal with 199 Bush's buddy Noriega (but then maybe we don't really want to). What about a 200 war on drugs? Sorry, to busy busting folks for burning flags, and forcing 201 poor, abused, and raped women to have babies to deal with that...... 202 203 696969696969696969 (Is it fact, or fiction???) 016=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/30/89 23:23 Msg:4522 Call:25086 Lines:16 204 &*&*&*&*'s 205 My new motto. "I worship the constitution, not the flag." To bad bush is 206 to caught up in an object to realize what the real foundation of this 207 country is. 208 209 I like to think of myself as a member of the new left. Proud to be an 210 american, but not stupid about it. 211 212 All forms of government stink. I just think ours stinks less then most. I 213 won't bother to argue about European socialism. They're much more 214 heterogenous in terms of culture and thus don't have many of the problems 215 our diverse country does. 216 217 An Astral Dreamer 218 &*&*&*&*'s 219 017=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 10/31/89 00:17 Msg:4523 Call:25089 Lines:7 220 ********************************************************************* 221 Kristy, No problem, it happens to lot of folks. The password system 222 here is a bit picky, it is case sensitive, so you have to remember to 223 use the same upper/lower case as you originally entered it. 224 Hope you enjoy the system, there are lots of people here and friends to 225 make. And just good fun to be had by all. 226 ********************** CISTOP MIKEY (CM) ************************** 018=Usr:13 voyeur 10/31/89 01:15 Msg:4525 Call:25091 Lines:77 227 Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al 228 229 Ever so lightly the rain tapped its timeless rhythm on Simon 230 Albright's bedroom window; the drops joining into tiny rivulets that 231 coursed down the pane. The grey September morning seemed anything but 232 unusual. 233 Shaved, showered, and refreshed by an uncommonly lavish breakfast 234 of hot coffee (quaffed) and half a cinnamon roll, Albright left his house 235 in time to see a UPS truck pulling up to the curb. Forty-five minutes 236 later he was sitting in a gloomy office trying to figure out where he had 237 diverged from the course that should have resulted in a normal day. 238 "I hope you weren't handled too roughly Mr. Albright." The man 239 seated opposite him was saying, "Our UPS team normally handles our less 240 friendly visitors." 241 "That's appropriate then," replied Albright flatly, "because I 242 wasn't feeling particularly friendly." 243 He was seated at the end of a large, black table in the shape of 244 an elongated hexagon. The austere fixture hanging over the center of the 245 table failed to illuminate the room's borders; but from the way their 246 voices stifled, Albright sensed the room was small, and definitely sound- 247 proofed. 248 Besides himself, there were three people in the room. Opposite of 249 Albright, at the head of the table, was a dark, thin man apparently 250 wielding some authority. He had one of those faces that seems young at 251 first glance, but which ages by increments when broken down to its 252 component features -- a thin veneer of youthful vitality stretched tightly 253 over a fleshscape finely etched with the lines of weighty responsibility. 254 The precision with which he chose his words went as far to emphasize his 255 attention to detail as did the magnifying glass he wielded while examining 256 the documents stacked neatly before him. 257 To the right of the vital man, one edge of the hexagon over, sat 258 a young woman. She was dressed conservatively and wore glasses when 259 contacts would have worked better. Albright decided that she could look 260 quite pretty if she wanted to; and then reprimanded himself for judging 261 the woman based solely on her looks. 262 Despite her obvious attempts to play down her femininity, the way 263 she rocked back in her chair and occasionally tossed her hair when 264 emphasizing a point (plus a number of intangible cues he couldn't define) 265 made it clear that she hadn't sacrificed her spirit to survive in a man's 266 world. Also, though Albright didn't pick up on this until later, her eyes 267 could sometimes be glimpsed flashing a burning, almost frightening 268 intensity, particularly when she thought she was alone or when the 269 discussion ran to other parties and she was free, as Albright imagined it, 270 to indulge a stormy id. Always this intensity gave way to a standard 271 impassiveness when she discovered she was being watched. 272 Curiously, to the left of the leader, sat a man Albright knew. 273 Or thought he knew. It was his friend Howard the used-car salesman. 274 Albright disliked those people as a rule, but Howard was different; he was 275 intelligent, sometimes contemplative, and almost never wore loud jackets. 276 He had med Howard at the House-O-Cars where the portly salesman 277 was employed. They hit it off fairly well once Howard managed to overcome 278 some of Albright's misgivings about his profession. The two men would get 279 together and play chess or discuss politics or baseball or women; just 280 about anything. Albright made it a point to never discuss his own 281 business and had found it strange that Howard had never asked. He 282 imagined how a boisterous salesman might use the information -- "That's 283 right madame! Sold one just like it to a secret service man just last 284 week! Yessir. CIA knows quality! Absolutely, miss! Lives right down 285 the street in number 21-B..." 286 In the light of present circumstances, Albright decided that he 287 must have known all along. The twisting knot in his stomach agreed. Now 288 Howard was watching Albright intently, leaning forward with his forearm on 289 the table. As usual, his tie was loosened and his top button was open. 290 With a practiced deliberation the leader placed his lens squarely 291 on top of his documents and directed his complete attention to Simon 292 Albright. "Let's start over." He said in a formal but unmenacing tone. 293 "Mr. Albright, I am Anthony Monticelli. These are Hillary McQueen and 294 Johnathon Lutz." He made economical gestures to each as he said their 295 names. "Of course you know John as Howard Smythe." 296 Albright said nothing as his mysterious, now grotesque-looking 297 friend (a mind's trick) grinned at him from across the cold hexagonal 298 plane. 299 To Be Continued... 300 301 Albright 302 303 Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al 019=Usr:286 Jeff Marten 10/31/89 03:05 Msg:4526 Call:25094 Lines:19 304 305 306 {+}{+}{+}{+} 307 308 { Kristy: 309 That may have been directed toward you, I can never be too 310 sure. Generally its best to disregard any messages of mine 311 that are under a full paragraph in length. Otherwise they'll 312 only make sense if you time your medication to be precisely 313 in synch with mine. Welcome to BKW. So..tell us all about 314 yourself. What's your favorite color? Favorite ice cream 315 flavor? Enjoy driving on ice? Any felony convictions? Ever 316 dance with the devil by the pale moonlight? 317 318 -+|[ ThingFish ]|+- 319 Better Disregard This One Too 320 321 {+}{+}{+}{+} 322 020=Usr:37 Kristy Crawford 10/31/89 15:13 Msg:4527 Call:25101 Lines:19 323 #*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*# 324 Just to let you know ThingFish, I won't disregard anything that has my name 325 in it. It's just me. That's for the welcoming, again. I haven't had a 326 whole lot of time to just sit down and write anything. Been busy with 327 school and all. You know, it's pretty much hell around here. Favorite 328 color: green (blue too, but I like blue and green together. Like plaid.) 329 Don't particularly enjoy the ice. Too dang cold. No felony convictions 330 yet. AND I DO MEAN yet. And as for the question of the day...I haven't 331 actually danced with the dby the pale moonlight. Although I would 332 very much like it, I haven't had the chance. He's my idol, ya know..HEHEHE. 333 Ah well, stupid humor. Let's throw this into YOUR face ThingFish, what's 334 your favorite comic strip, book, song (or group), what about your favorite 335 MOVIE?!? Anyway...should sign off with another one of you-know-what's: 336 337 "Never Say No..." 338 339 Isn't it a wonderful world out here? 340 341 {#*}{#*}{#*} Kristy "Kissy" Crawford {#*}{#*}{#*} 021=Usr:287 Ralph Steadman 10/31/89 21:01 Msg:4528 Call:25106 Lines:50 342 69696969696 343 Refresh my memory please... 344 just WHO WON World War II ??? 345 346 JAPANESE BUY ROCKEFELLER GROUP:-10/31/89 347 The Japanese firm Mitsubishi Estate Co. is buying a controlling interest in 348 the Rockefeller Group for $846 million. Rockefeller Group owns a real estate 349 and business empire that includes 28.5 percent of New York's Rockefeller 350 Center, 80 percent of real estate firm Cushman & Wakefield Inc. and Radio City 351 Music Hall Productions. 352 353 PROTESTERS TO BE ARRAIGNED:-10/31/89 354 Four demonstrators who burned flags at the U.S. Capitol Monday are 355 scheduled to be arraigned Tuesday in Washington. Their case could lead to a 356 test of the law Congress passed after the Supreme Court held the First 357 Amendment protects flag-burning as free speech. 358 359 DEBATE - Guns 360 USA TODAY'S OPINION: There's a deadly epidemic threatening our children. The 361 disease is gun violence. ... Every day, nine kids between 1 and 19 are killed 362 by firearms. Many deaths were accidental. ... But most firearm deaths are 363 deliberate. ... We must halt the gun-violence epidemic now. 364 OTHER VIEWS: 365 ALAN M. GOTTLEIEB, chairman of Citizens Committee for Right to Keep and 366 Bear Arms: Gun deaths account for a mere 2 percent of all accidental deaths in 367 the United States. Firearms rank fifth behind automobiles, drowning, fires and 368 suffocation as causes of death of children under 15. 369 FRED WATKINS, Troy, Ala., gun enthusiast: "The goal is to disarm the 370 public, and we haven't done anything wrong." 371 MARK HOLZBAND, Los Angeles teacher after student suicide: "Some students 372 may have known he had a gun, and there was guilt about that." 373 11-YEAR-OLD TAMPA BOY, to police after firing at classmates: "I'm tired of 374 them teasing me, and I was going to take care of it." 375 SUSAN KENNEY, who organized Gun Responsibility In Every Family after her 376 son was killed: "We have too many kids dying." 377 LARCHMONT, N.Y., Charles Curran, 63, marketing consultant: "The serious gun 378 owner is going to be more careful. It's the casual owner - the person who has 379 no serious need for a gun - who poses the most problems." 380 KNOB NOSTER, MO., Neva Allen, 35, program coordinator: "The only way to 381 honestly protect children from guns is through stronger laws that don't allow 382 guns in the home unless they have appropriate safety mechanisms that would 383 prevent them from being fired by children." 384 MOSS POINT, MISS., Will Woods, 44, project coordinator: "You can't keep 385 people from having guns, but if accidents do happen through negligence, we 386 should be looking at Florida's law." 387 BURLINGTON, VT., Clifton E. LaPlante, 58, retired Army: "Every state should 388 have laws, not the federal government. ... If the government tries to infringe 389 on our rights anymore, only criminals will have guns." 390 Only the 5th killer of kids. What people REALLY have a "serious need"? 391 696969696969696969 022=Usr:13 voyeur 11/01/89 00:27 Msg:4529 Call:25114 Lines:15 392 ???????????????????????????? 393 >firearms rank fifth behind automobiles, drowning, fires and suffocation... 394 > What people REALLY have a "serious need"? 395 Automobiles - most people don't need cars - use mass transit. 396 Drowning - very few people are required to be near the water; mostly it's 397 pleasure boating or other recreation. Water skiing or canoeing 398 certainly is not a necessity. 399 Fires - a lot of there are smoker's carelessness. Finish banning cigarettes. 400 Gas stoves? Gas is dangerous - look at post-quake San Francisco. 401 Suffocation - old refrigerators and plastic bags (garbage, shopping). 402 Make it mandatory to turn in your obsolete refrigerators; return 403 to paper bags. 404 It's simple, really. There are only about three 'needs' - food, water, air. 405 Do you want to give up *everything* else? 406 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 023=Usr:366 berney dunn 11/01/89 13:29 Msg:4530 Call:25119 Lines:13 407 Sure, guns kill people. They don't even need someone to pull the trigger, they 408 just hunt out poor inocent children. Perfect safety devices? Easy, remove and 409 lock up the ammo. More laws are sure to stop the problem just look at the 410 drug laws, which are getting more restrictive every day, and yet we have more 411 drug related problems every day. 412 It's not guns, or cars, or water that's killing our children, it's the 413 drunken parents that leave loaded guns lying around, don't teach their children 414 how to handle dangerous items, and expect the government to protect them from 415 themselves. The politicans just love this attitude, it makes them feel 416 important. 417 You can't have it both ways, which do you want, safety or freedom? 418 ( I chose freedom, and will protect myself. don't push me.) 419 _________________________________B.A.D. _______________________________ 024=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 11/01/89 18:28 Msg:4531 Call:25126 Lines:11 420 &*&*&*&*'s 421 Why not put the death penalty on anybody that uses a gun in a crime? 422 Atleast that way the people who deserve it get the punishment. 423 424 I'll give up my guns when they outlaw cars, motorcycles, all sports 425 and overeating. 426 427 An Astral Dreamer 428 &*&*&*&*'s {Who doesn't want it to get to the point where they do pry it 429 out of his cold dead hands.} 430 025=Usr:333 Bartender Slug 11/01/89 22:09 Msg:4532 Call:25131 Lines:4 431 ############################################################################### 432 So who's still posting this news crap anyway? Bleah. 433 ############################################################################### 434 026=Usr:7 Leonard Erickson 11/01/89 22:28 Msg:4533 Call:25133 Lines:6 435 010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101 436 JQTFR \Y@ME YR@XI @NQRW F]ALD AZFPZ KSDAT WFHCO MYVGR HCADA ZFJ\[ TEXPD 437 RYQ@N QTFR\ Y@MAP VHHCB LURV\ HCADA YFJXK LDAGD JUA@M URWF\ [AL]R RXCHJ 438 OEWWJ I[DDA QFJHC DM]RF NZKNL \PFD] KLMQR WH\Y@ LI\R@ [SON\ WB\KP MAH_F 439 010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101 440 ... I'm Baaaaackk.... :-) 027=Usr:13 voyeur 11/02/89 00:16 Msg:4534 Call:25137 Lines:73 441 After much digging, I managed to uncover my old secret decoder ring. It still 442 works! However, it's not exactly what your message suggests... 443 Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al 444 445 Albright listened quietly while Monticelli told him things he 446 already knew. "We know all about you, Mr. Albright. You're a graduate of 447 Gonzaga where you studied political science and literature; also, you 448 demonstrate a keen aptitude for languages. You speak German, French, 449 Russian, and a few less-common tongues. You joined the CIA to put your 450 language skills to work; and, though you performed well in field 451 assignments, you have found yourself behind a desk in the states, trans- 452 lating correspondence that you personally find trivial." 453 This was true. The new liberal atmosphere and budget cuts in 454 Washington had taken their toll. "Pencil-pushing peeping Toms! That's 455 what we've become!" His department-head had once raged. Overseas posts 456 had become sparse, especially for agents with little seniority. 457 Monticelli recited more facts about Albright's career. Alarmingly, 458 some of the details bespoke a deep penetration into his CIA records. 459 Albright became aware that Monticelli was giving him a small cross-section 460 of his history to demonstrate the thoroughness of their sources. 461 His unwelcomed biographer then carefully moved his magnifying 462 glass aside and opened a folder from which he extracted elements of 463 Abright's personal life, including, unfortunately, specifics on his 464 failed engagement, which had blown an O-ring the previous year. Albright 465 was surprised at how sharply it still hurt when picked-over in the cold 466 light of an interrogation room. 467 The man quoted CIA documents (some familiar, some not) that 468 described Albright as moderately intelligent, gifted in a few specialized 469 areas, and competently manipulative of the psychological states of others. 470 But they also noted that he was frequently volatile, unpredictable in 471 pressure situations, and insecure enough to warrant concern over his 472 suitability for field assignments. 473 So that was why they had pulled him out -- held over for 474 observation. Albright shifted uncomfortably in his seat. 475 Monticelli also read passages from what Albright recognized as 476 one of his college papers on political ethics; and he was reminded of some 477 of the statements he had made to "Howard" when the latter was still just 478 a benign salesman at the House-O-Cars. 479 At length, Monticelli closed the folder and clasped his hands in 480 front of himself. "I would very much enjoy discussing some of these 481 topics with you Mr. Albright. But for now I'm here to offer you a 482 position with our organization. We believe you possess skills and view- 483 points that would be valuable to us. I'm certain you would find the 484 experience rewarding." 485 This offer was so blunt and unexpected (and ludicrous) that 486 Albright nearly laughed. "Join you?!" He stopped and remodulated his 487 voice. "If it hasn't occurred to you, you haven't told me who you are, 488 aside from quoting three questionable names. But I wonder, Mr. Anthony 489 Monticelli: if you ARE legitimate, why would you reveal three of your 490 members, knowing you can't trust me." 491 "Legitimate?" Monticelli replied, "I hardly think so. But if 492 you're concerned about hidden strings or double-crosses, I assure you that 493 your worries are unfounded. As for trusting you, I admit we have to take 494 chances in recruitment, but you're not one of them." 495 Albright was vaguely offended, and struggled to keep his voice 496 detached and confident. "You're that sure you can control me?" 497 Monticelli leaned forward and adopted a more animated tone, "We 498 KNOW you. We know your philosophies and beliefs. We understand your 499 motivations and goals. We offer you a chance to do the work you chose to 500 do. You won't want to leave us, Dirk." 501 Obviously Monticelli had used one of Albright's old code names as 502 a reminder of how well they did, in fact, know him. After a moment the 503 man stood and gathered his folders. "Besides, Mr. Albright, once you've 504 seen what it is we do here, you'll find it difficult to take the CIA 505 seriously. As for our identity, I will leave it to Miss McQueen to give 506 you our history and function. I will return once you've had a chance to 507 consider our offer. It's been a pleasure meeting you Mr. Albright." And 508 promptly he left. 509 510 511 Albright 512 513 Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al 028=Usr:368 Nemesis Warlock 11/03/89 20:13 Msg:4535 Call:25179 Lines:5 514 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==== 515 No postings in over a DAY? For a while there, we were running a pretty steady 516 average of 300 LINES per day. Users, why hath thou forsaken us? 517 Friar: The Cloaked Man approaches, and the Stone Triangle crumbles. 518 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==== 029=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 11/04/89 01:37 Msg:4536 Call:25182 Lines:8 519 &*&*&*&*'s 520 Why is it that nobody seems to pay any attention to me here? I dare 521 anybody to notice this note! 522 523 An Astral Dreamer (Who is tired of having conversations die on him.) 524 525 526 &*&*&*&*'s(Two extra lines filled by tired fingers and brain.) 030=Usr:368 Nemesis Warlock 11/04/89 20:38 Msg:4537 Call:25190 Lines:18 527 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==== 528 Uh-oh, the board is slooooooowwwiiiinng down, and that might mean the begininng 529 of a Bear Writer's Market! 530 Oh, goody, I know! I'll stir up some heady controversy. Let's see here. 531 What is the nd? Nah, too monotonous, been done before. The Ozone Layer? 532 Water pollution? Too Greenpeacy. Hmm, how about "George Bush is God?" Will 533 that generate a reaction... I think not, too unbelievable. "The Surgeon 534 General should have been lynched"? Too violently oriented. "Exxon is the 535 best run company in the United States? No, I don't think so. Guns don't kill 536 people, people do? Cigarettes are not really hazardous to your health? Not 537 those either... Decisions, decisions. Oh, wait! I've got it! The perfect 538 way to anny everyone on the board!!!! Why didn't I think of this before? 539 540 541 542 69696969696969696 543 544 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==Zephyr::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==== 031=Usr:38 Eric Starker 11/05/89 10:55 Msg:4538 Call:25198 Lines:2 545 howdy 546 032=Usr:427 alyx * 11/05/89 16:41 Msg:4539 Call:25203 Lines:13 547 548 #*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*# alyx #*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*# 549 550 No, George Bush isn't God but I think Melissa Etheridge might be. 551 552 -- 553 554 i went hiking in the rain today with a new found friend (previously he 555 was "just" a co-worker. it always amazes me how people (or even me) will 556 just seemingly randomly let down their barriers. 557 558 #*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*# 559 033=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par 11/05/89 21:21 Msg:4540 Call:25207 Lines:3 560 070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070 561 eh? 562 070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070 034=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 11/05/89 22:04 Msg:4541 Call:25209 Lines:10 563 &*&*&*&*'s 564 I knew I'd be ignored. 565 566 (So Abuse me. ANYTHING would be nice. This is a full duplex line you know. 567 :-) 568 569 An Astral Dreamer (I've been here a year and a half, don't I atleast deserve 570 an occasional 'how are you?) 571 &*&*&*&*'s 572 035=Usr:39 no body 11/05/89 23:46 Msg:4542 Call:25212 Lines:15 573 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% 574 % Never Me % 575 % I see you on the TV dancing cheek to cheek. % 576 % I see you walking down the street hand in hand. % 577 % I see you with your love standing there so close. % 578 % Always I see you. % 579 % You do not see my hurt. % 580 % You do not see my pain. % 581 % You do not see my hate. % 582 % How can you? % 583 % Always there is love for you. % 584 % Always there is someone for you. % 585 % Always for you, but never for me. % 586 % Never me. % 587 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% 036=Usr:13 voyeur 11/06/89 00:23 Msg:4543 Call:25214 Lines:5 588 Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al* 589 I've got another 90 lines ready to upload, but I don't want to oversaturate 590 the board with this (as a certain un-named news reposter does), so I guess 591 I'll see what tomorrow looks like. 592 Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al* 037=Usr:402 DELTA.FIVE SHANN 11/06/89 00:53 Msg:4544 Call:25216 Lines:3 593 [*=*] [*=*] [*=*] DV [*=*] 594 DELTA FIVE IN LURK MODE... 595 by 038=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 11/06/89 11:24 Msg:4545 Call:25219 Lines:2 596 &*&*&*&*'s 597 I'm starting to see how twits develope. If somebody doesn't acknowledge my 039=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 11/06/89 19:03 Msg:4546 Call:25238 Lines:6 598 existence within the next two days I'm going to enter one twitish message. 599 (Assuming that this doesn't quilify.) 600 601 An Astral Dreamer (Temporal shift messages are us.) 602 &*&*&*&*'s 603 040=Usr:368 Nemesis Warlock 11/06/89 20:47 Msg:4547 Call:25241 Lines:15 604 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==== 605 Astral Dreamer: The portion of my text which mentioned your message seems to 606 have been munched. So, I'll paraphrase in the hopes that nothing is lost over 607 the way. 608 Astral Dreamer: Hello. 609 That being done, I may ignore you now in peace, secure in the notion that I 610 have prevented the birth of a terrible scourge upon the free world... THE 611 ASTRAL TWIT! Think about it... Seeping in between other users' conversations, 612 hidden, a little ball of ectoplasm in the corner snickering "I'm General Zod! 613 Eyem Thee KeyPuhr Uf Sowls!" 614 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==Zephyr::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==== 615 Oh, and Friar, the Cloaked Man is getting closer and closer. The Stone 616 Triangle's Falling! The Stone Triangle's Falling! Friar Friar, L'Homme 617 L'Homme, Mikey Mikey, the Stone Triangle's Falling! 618 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==ZZephyr::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=== 041=Usr:415 Jessie a 11/07/89 05:45 Msg:4548 Call:25249 Lines:11 619 *.*.*.*.*.*.Jessie 620 Friar has a new baby at home that arrived this last week. I'm afraid the stone 621 triangle will just have to hold its topple in mid-drop unless you wish to end 622 story rather abruptly. 623 624 Baby is little girl, nine and a half pounds, 20.5 inches, dark hair. Perhaps 625 she will come questing with the friar as soon as she gets the magic bit down 626 but for right now the Friar needs his sleep. Be kind to the poor man...if he 627 wasn't a *poor* man before he will be after the bills. >:) We will me more 628 involved in baby powder than quests for a slight while. 629 *.*.*.*.*.*.*.Jessie 042=Usr:498 Hagbard Celine , 11/08/89 00:46 Msg:4549 Call:25269 Lines:60 630 631 {} 632 633 Say, anybody need a slightly used buhdist (sp) monk? 634 635 Astral Dreamer, you shouldn't become bitter over the stupidity of 636 the world around you. I spent YEARS doing so and it only gave me a 637 morbid sense of humor. Fortuneately, wounds heal, but my scars still 638 remain upon me. Rejoice with what little you and I and everyone else 639 has - oh! Need I mention that "New Left" is not what you are. Welcome 640 to the only no-power party in the world: anarchism. Anarchism comes 641 in different flavors, usually because people tend to be self-styled. 642 "Left" usally implies socialism, "Right" implies totalitarianism, and 643 "(colorful metaphor deleted)" is what anarchists say to both. 644 645 Or have they changed the rules? 646 647 (If you figure out that paradox, and you don't laugh, take out some 648 time for an 'attitude' adjustment.) 649 650 To the new faces on the board - hello. I am Hagbard Celine (with 651 appologies to Robert Anton Wilson). Occationally I will appear hear 652 to goad others into confronting existence, or to weep over something 653 trivial, or to simply open my mouth and spill words onto a worn 654 keyboard. My mind is viewed as "conservative" by liberals and 655 "liberal" by conservatives, and simply "weird" to my friends. My 656 "character" on this board is a young white male, 200lbs, dark hair/eyes 657 wearing bhuddist (got it right this time) robes and floating through 658 air. A simple "charactature" indeed. 659 660 To Friar: my best wishes; I can not lend you my patience, but I 661 sense your upcoming plight. May your family be happy, and your 662 time as bountiful as the Magik Sac you carry. I know you will never 663 read this message (for lack of time and the impending New Disk), 664 but my hopes go to you. 665 666 To Everyone: 667 668 Well, what are you waiting for? Can't sit around all evening and 669 be remorseful because the Writing has stopped - c'mon, you've only 670 a life to live, use it now! Shall I prepare a set of guidelines for 671 a short interactive story? Kurfur, where are you? There's ALWAYS 672 ale to have. 673 Yes, Real Life is "a reel bummer, mann, like, a drag, ya know?" - 674 But when life bites my behind I simply YELL RIGHT BACK. So waht 675 (oops) what if everyone else is rich or powerful; they're full of 676 It to begin with. Money is a Drug, a REAL Drug. The user becomes 677 hooked, panics when it is low, and can even die from withdrawl. 678 Sure, it's nice to have SOME, but all of it is "beyond the 679 Ludicrous Zone". Power is a brain game that people CHOOSE to believe. 680 Bullets may kill you, but you CHOOSE to obey a armed person. 681 Ack!!! Min minden ist dumbkopften und deranged, us vell us 682 ust pain supid. 683 684 Sorry folks, got on a roll but forgot to get off. 685 686 Hagbard Celine, deranged Guru 687 688 {} 689 043=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par 11/08/89 01:27 Msg:4550 Call:25270 Lines:9 690 *%@*)@#)(!@_)!@($_)$!@)$_+!$(_)!($!_)+@$_~($%)_@*%^)_$*^_)(^)_$#(^#)(|~)@(%_)$( 691 Astral Twit, er Dreamer : Indeed Hello! We wouldn't want you adding more twitly 692 messages on this fine system now, would we. I mean what were you going to do? 693 ZZTOP RULES isn't twitly anymore. Instead that sacred phrase has climbed to 694 the realm of high comedy. Fake a ZOD message? Only a REAL twit would do that, 695 and I think you are merely a lonely person who just wants someone to talk to. 696 Not a bad thing in itself, but if you push something, generally the opposite 697 of what you desire will happen... 698 *%)_@%_#)@%*)_@#%*(_@)#*%_)@*%@)_*% L'homme sans Parity *_@)#%)#(%@_)#(%@#_)%@ 044=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 11/08/89 14:42 Msg:4551 Call:25284 Lines:20 699 &*&*&*&*'s 700 Ok, now I feel human! :-) 701 702 Its sort of sad that I had to threaten to be a twit to get any attention. Not 703 that I was ever very serious about that. 704 705 So, no more ramblings about '386 sx's from me, I'll just sit back and listen. 706 And if I ever get in the right mood perhaps I'll write a story or two. 707 708 It was good to hear from you Hagbard. 709 710 Congrats to Friar and family. 711 712 I'd be an anarchist, but I don't think most people can handle it. (We don't 713 do well with the relative simplicty of the governmental form in America. 714 ) 715 716 An Astral Dreamer 717 &*&*&*&*'s 718 045=Usr:13 voyeur 11/09/89 00:16 Msg:4552 Call:25297 Lines:84 719 Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al 720 721 As Monticelli left the room, Albright prepared for the influx of 722 light that would define the shadowy edges of the room. but when the door 723 behind him was opened the only thing that flowed in was more darkness, if 724 that was possible. Nor did any wayward sounds find their way to his 725 straining ears. No trains or voices or shuffling feet to clue his 726 location; and no light to reveal the little glass observation window he 727 knew was there. 728 Without preliminaries McQueen launched into her monologue. She 729 described how their organization, known as "George", had been founded by 730 a former head of British intelligence as a means of circumventing the 731 limitations associated with official status. When drastic measures were 732 required, he could employ George, his private, unofficial agency, to 733 produce results with impunity and secrecy. 734 Inevitably this arrangement made the founder vulnerable because, 735 where his security was based on secrecy, so, too, was the means of his 736 destruction. Inasmuch as he was George's sole link to any set of 737 acknowledged social guidelines or legal authority, and since it was 738 impossible for him to avail upon that authority to constrain the organ- 739 ization's activities without revealing his own improprieties, he became a 740 captive of the same body he had created. 741 Of course they didn't simply do away with their "leader" - instead 742 they turned him into a marionette, maintaining a considerable influence 743 over British Intelligence. 744 "You mean you don't represent or serve any government? You just do 745 whatever you want?" Albright asked in disbelief. 746 "Not exactly. You might say we represent western interest in 747 general. The internal dynamics of the agency are sufficient to police our 748 own activities. Our current structure will be described to you at the 749 proper time, but for now it will suffice to point out that the original 750 George operatives were carefully screened for their political philosophies, 751 so they were naturally inclined to strive for something resembling western 752 ideals. We keep each other in line." 753 Albright mocked, "They were obviously screened very carefully." 754 "Mr. Albright," McQueen said, "You yourself have argued that the 755 attaining of power, even in a dictatorial sense, is not intrinsically 756 evil, or even immoral. Those George agents simply found themselves in a 757 position where they could make an impact. Their founder in British 758 Intelligence had made George moderately self-sufficient to avoid the 759 dangers that day-to-day administrative correspondence would have created. 760 They took advantage of his forced distance. I daresay you would have done 761 the same thing in their position." 762 "Something puzzles me, McQueen." Albright said, "How could the 763 head of a major intelligence agency be so foolish as to create a self- 764 sufficient organization of spies and expect to maintain control over it? 765 He had to realize that he was eroding his own foundation by making himself 766 unnecessary." 767 "Not quite." McQueen replied, with a non-specific pointing motion. 768 "He had created all of the peripheral machinery necessary to an independent 769 organization, but not the means of coordinating it. That privilege he 770 reserved for himself. 771 "You see, there was not one man in George who knew more than ten 772 percent of the agency's members. Most knew only an immediate few. George 773 was broken into a collection of specialized units that could communicate 774 only through the head man. For instance, one section was in charge of 775 operating the covert operations that generated funds for the entire agency. 776 They had money, but no way to use it. Other units were organized into 777 discrete channels of espionage and communication. They had minimal funds 778 and no way to contact other units. 779 "When unneeded, George would lie in a sort of torpor -- quietly 780 storing funds and maintaining contacts. Then, in the event of a crisis, 781 it could be thrown into gear, with the head man tying all the channels 782 together. If the crisis was extended or complicated, he could assemble 783 tempory short-circuits where his role was bypassed, but in the end the 784 members of different units would never know the identities of their 785 counterparts in other units. Theoretically." 786 "Meaning they eventually short-circuited the system for good." 787 Albright said, framing his question in the form of a statement. 788 "A few ambitious agents did," McQueen confirmed. "It was 789 essential that the leader take himself out of the comm-loop at times to 790 avoid being discovered by the official British agency. But the more 791 contact the different units had with each other, the harder it became for 792 the leader to eradicate the consequent residue. By the time he realized 793 there was a problem, he was completely isolated -- at the mercy of a fully 794 autonomous George." 795 The room was quiet for a few moments as the questions coalesced in 796 Albright's mind. He needed to know he wasn't being duped into betraying 797 his country for a bunch of barely-credible lies. Yes, it was time to 798 choose a course. 799 800 Albright 801 Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al*Al 802 046=Usr:368 Nemesis Warlock 11/09/89 12:02 Msg:4553 Call:25303 Lines:1 803 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==Zephyr::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==== 047=Usr:287 Ralph Steadman 11/09/89 12:33 Msg:4554 Call:25306 Lines:48 804 696969696969 805 So...let's see if I've got it straight... For the last 8 806 years (or longer?), the EPA has essentially done nothing, and had no funds 807 even if it wanted to clean the environment up; The CIA has been importing and 808 selling drugs with some of the largest drug dealers in the world, subverting 809 "free and democratic" elections, selling arms and other material in exchange 810 for hostages and to profit a few rich arms dealers, lying to Congress; HUD wa 811 giving taxpayers' money to Reagan/Bush croenies while the poor slept on heatin 812 grates, and the FDA was being bribed to approve drugs...What a great country 813 this must be. Might make some folks want to protest and perhaps burn the 814 symbol of all this greed and stupidity. BUT the same DESPOTS we would 815 burn the flag to protest, would take away our right of free expression...... 816 817 "On the blind side and down the back ways The roots of sadness crawl... 818 When you can't get what you need, You feel like taking a torch to it all. 819 All the sweet talk makes a bitter man. You can feel the darkness rise. 820 Sometimes you don't know what you're fighting for, You don't know who it is 821 you despise. 822 I am the Halleluiah Man, break all the rules, I'm the King of 823 Fools. I'm the renegade, in this greytown And I'll do ANYTHING to bring a 824 government down. I am the Halleluiah Man, yes, my friends, I've been born 825 again. I'm the Black Sheep, who, while the shepards sleep Will do ANYTHING 826 to bring a government down. 827 In a coat of a thousand colours and a star-spangled Cadillac He picked up a 828 rodeo Queen with whiplash marks all over his back: "When dreams don't become 829 their people, People become their dreams." He didn't understand at the time, 830 But now he knows exactly what it means... 831 832 They said, "Watch out boy, be careful where you tread. Your're throwing away 833 all that beautiful bread." He slept outside until the world opened up, They'v 834 got to understand he's a Halleluiah Man. He built himself a prison, he knew 835 he had to escape. Some worlds are together by steel, Some worlds are held 836 together by cellophane tape. He was drifting thru the sharks' teeth He always 837 paid his dues. When something told him he had nothing, that's when he knew 838 He had NOTHING TO LOSE. He says, 839 "I am the Halleluiah Man, 840 break all the rules, I'm the King of Fools I'm the Renegade, in the greytown 841 And I'll do ANYTHING to bring a government down." I am the Halleluiah Man, ye 842 my friends, I've been born again I'm the Black Sheep, while the shepards sleep 843 I'LL DO ANYTHING TO BRING THIS GOVERNMENT DOWN. 844 845 "When dreams don't become their people, People become their dreams" 846 He didn't understand at the time, but now he know exactly what it means." 847 ---James Grant 848 849 696969696969696969 850 "...Too tired to think..." 851 048=Usr:29 The Bard 11/09/89 14:09 Msg:4555 Call:25316 Lines:2 852 Well, I'm off to ORYCON. See you at the Filksinging.... 853 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~BARD~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 049=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par 11/09/89 21:36 Msg:4556 Call:25340 Lines:6 854 *%)(*%@#)(*%@()#_%*_#)@(%@#)_(%_)@(_)@#%_++_@#%(@_)*%)_@%(*@#_)%@_)#(%@_)#*$@)_ 855 856 Bard: Not bloody likely, but have a good time anyway, and be sure to report 857 and good gossip or scandals you catch wind of... 858 859 *%@_(%*)_@(_)($@)_#(%@)_(%@)_#%(@)_% L'homme sans Parity (*@)_($)_!(!_))_#@%()_ 050=Usr:366 berney dunn 11/10/89 13:13 Msg:4557 Call:25361 Lines:5 860 Cistop: 861 are you or are you related to the Michael Day speaking on 862 compuserve for Borland I. a.k.a Turbo? 863 (Or is this a private question?) 864 ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? 051=Usr:4 Milchar 11/10/89 20:58 Msg:4558 Call:25370 Lines:8 865 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 866 Greetings all, 'tis been a while since I last stopped by. I notice 867 a few new faces (hi there!) a few familiar ones, and one or two 868 mysterious ones lurking in the background. 869 Bard: What, a Con in Portland and you didn't tell me? That's three 870 years now I've missed it. Harumph. 871 And L5 code too? My, what are things coming to.... :-) 872 +++++++++++++++++++++++++ Milch ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 052=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 11/11/89 01:06 Msg:4559 Call:25376 Lines:6 873 Am I the Michael Day on Compuserve? No, that's my evil twin "Skippy" 874 Any resembalance is purely intentional. He only comes out when 875 I drink too much of the dreaded VOL. However a couple of cans of Jolt 876 usually puts him back in his place. ;-) 877 (Or to put it more succinctly, Yes it tis I. A little fame, but no fortune.) 878 ************************** CISTOP MIKEY ***************************** 053=Usr:4 Milchar 11/11/89 18:11 Msg:4560 Call:25393 Lines:3 879 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 880 At the current CI$ rates, it would seem to me a fortune is involved... :-) 881 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Milch ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 054=Usr:4 Milchar 11/12/89 00:58 Msg:4561 Call:25399 Lines:16 882 #$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$# 883 A few droplets of rain spent themselves upon a window pane, 884 punctuating the faint hum of a computer terminal that illuminated an 885 otherwise dark study. A man, sitting alone at the terminal, taps out 886 a last instruction on the keyboard....... 887 ENCRYPT AND TRANSMIT 888 ATEEH [Y@D@ ]B@P[ EMYZG DXKLA TEEF] KBMH] B@P[U NIYFJ [STDA RGJ]C YDAYW 889 HXKTN UYPZB RFNIW VZNQ@ F@Z@Z BPMAI IFJ\K ULUYW HHCMM EYWFZ KOMXP F^]KT 890 MQTV\ YINAT E@ZBP @@@@@ 891 892 Finished, he leans back and contemplates the future. Was he 893 to be re-activated? If malevolent forces moved on the Earth, then he 894 would have a job to do-- but was he ready to face that kind of 895 responsibility again? If not, then who would oppose those who wrought 896 destruction? 897 #$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$# 055=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 11/12/89 19:05 Msg:4562 Call:25402 Lines:10 898 &*&*&*&*'s 899 The wind outside was a cool one. The wanderer sat at his usual table staring 900 moodily at the fire. The past year had been a stressfull one. He had gone from 901 the highest peeks of hapiness to the lowest valey of despair. He hoped that 902 the rapidly approaching new year would bring with it somthing of the dull 903 sameness that had pervaded many of the previous years of his life. 904 905 An Astral Dreamer 906 &*&*&*&*'s 907 056=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 11/12/89 21:11 Msg:4563 Call:25406 Lines:21 908 *********************************************************************** 909 Howdy Milch! Still around I see... Along with MM.... 910 911 Germany: I'm still amazed by it all... Decades of isolationism being 912 torn down and thrown away in a matter of hours and days. I watch the 913 people celebrating their new found freedom, and I can't help but feel 914 happy for them. I do hope it lasts and that we can count the new 915 country amoung our friends. I wish them good luck in their new direction. 916 May it bring health and happiness. 917 918 As I watch, I am reminded of an eagle breaking out of its shell. 919 Pecking away at the shell that surrounds it. Repeatedly hammering away 920 until the shell lays in pieces and it is exposed to the world, free 921 from its prison. Screaming for freedom, finally to achieve it and 922 being almost overwhelmed by the outside world. No way to go back, 923 no way to hide within the shell anymore. Breathing life into lungs 924 that never breathed before. Yelling out for food. Hollering for 925 its own place in the world. 926 Soon that eagle will spead its wings and take it's deserved place 927 in the world. I wish you well Germany. May you achieve all you desire. 928 ************************ CISTOP MIKEY ******************************** 057=Usr:46 BRUCE CLARK 11/13/89 17:22 Msg:4564 Call:25432 Lines:5 929 930 931 KD647 HHD53 JJD6D 5442D 777D4 JJWT8 932 933 058=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 11/14/89 08:14 Msg:4565 Call:25446 Lines:13 934 &*&*&*&*'s 935 I'm happy for the germans and the rest of eastern Europe, but I just can't 936 help but think that it is still a possibility that those with the stalinist 937 attitude will return to power. Remember China? Remember Tiamen square? I 938 HOPE it doesn't happen in europe, because if it does things will be much 939 worse. 940 941 Being small minded should be a crime. Being in a position of power and small 942 minded should be a capitol offense. 943 944 An Astral Dreamer 945 &*&*&*&*'s (I dare you to enter somthing. Now that you'v scared away the News.) 946 059=Usr:287 Ralph Steadman 11/14/89 16:20 Msg:4566 Call:25454 Lines:2 947 The news hasn't been scared away...it has been censored. 948 060=Usr:29 The Bard 11/15/89 02:03 Msg:4567 Call:25461 Lines:14 949 Milchar: the con is *always* on the Veteran's day weekend. You just need to 950 mark your calendar. Or drop by the PorSFiS meeting this Saturday and buy your 951 memberships for both OryCon *and* for the WesterCon that'll be here 4th of July 952 weekend. 953 954 News: The news has not been censored. No one has told you that you can not say 955 something. The sysop is merely excercising *editorial* control over how much 956 can be entered on *his* system. You want to post megabytes of (illegally 957 reproduced!) news, put up your own BBS. Freedom of the press doesn't mean that 958 any paper has to print anything you submit. It means that they are free to 959 print anything *they* want to print. If they won't print your material, that 960 isn't censorship. If *someone else* tells them that they can't print your 961 material *OR THAT THEY MUST PRINT IT* that is censorship. 962 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~BARD~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 061=Usr:4 Milchar 11/15/89 11:59 Msg:4568 Call:25463 Lines:4 963 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 964 Bard: I wasn't aware it was always the same weekend. That clears up a few 965 matters... well, I can always wait until next time I suppose. 966 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Milch ++++++++++++++ 11/15/89 ++++++++++++++++++ 062=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 11/15/89 19:49 Msg:4569 Call:25468 Lines:9 967 &*&*&*&*'s 968 An now, THE DISK THAT WOULDN'T END. 969 970 (Not quite an exhortation to fill the disk.) 971 972 An Astral Dreamer (Filler is still better then nothing. Atleast it takes up 973 space.) 974 &*&*&*&*'s 975 063=Usr:287 Ralph Steadman 11/15/89 21:07 Msg:4570 Call:25470 Lines:24 976 Bard: It seems to me that if some have essentially unlimited access to a 977 public medium, and others are limited because others disagree with what they 978 are saying on that public medium, that is censorship. As to whether the 979 so-called "news" posting are legal or not, that has not been decided by anyone, 980 let alone any court with jusidiction over this board. Anyone who took the time 981 and effort to actually read what is posted between the "69" border would soon 982 realize that very little is actually straight news copy, and historically a 983 great deal of comment has accompanied those that are. Unfortunatly, some folks 984 have trouble distinguishing fiction from reality, perhaps due to the times we 985 live in, and the fact that the news media themselves seem to be having a 986 certain amount of trouble with it themselves. It is interesting that without 987 the "news" postings the progress of Backwater has ground almost to a halt. So 988 what great literary work is it displacing? Encrypted messages with no key? 989 It is also interesting to me that the "news" posting went on for several months 990 with no comment and little response from anyone, until one day some unkind 991 words were said about someone or something that touched a bare nerve of a few 992 callers. They didn't want to read the truth, or be confronted with the absurd- 993 ity of the current administration, or something, and began to squawk about it. 994 A not untypically Bush/Reagan Republican response to reality. (Or was it?) 995 Just because a posting says AP or UPI in it, doesn't necessarily mean that was 996 its source. Where's your critical appraisal of what you read? Do you believe 997 everything you see posted on a fiction-oriented BBS? Do you believe everything 998 your read in the newspaper? Do you believe everything you see on television? 999 As "Cub" Houck said: I'm innocent, because I say so.